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Poster: gregors Date: Jan 6, 2007 3:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Come on....

I would just love to enjoy the soundboard recordings but my connection apparently isn't quite good enough - so every minute of listening there are a few shorter or longer silence interuptions- not condusive to true enjoyment :-(
I would like to download the shows to be able to hear the songs uninterrupted.

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Poster: Liamfinnegan Date: Jan 6, 2007 9:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Come on....

drop me a line at tom_mack@hotmail.com and I will try to send you some files- there are internet applications that we can use to do this, even if it is a song at a time due to your connection- I have Dicks Picks 23-35 and others

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Jan 6, 2007 4:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Come on....

I'm not sure why the original thread by alanizj ... did someone recently "bitch" about there not being anymore downloadable soundboards. Haven't read any recent threads, but i can pretty much assume that anyone who's been on this forum for a while now didn't make that sort of bitch and moan that was heard here too often anyhow.

However, as to your own comment, it's takes some effort, but you might perhaps give gdlive a try. That site has a great selection of shows that you can download and give listen to once you've converted the files into a format for listening.

Often it's not the free stuff that bring the most enjoyment, but those things which require an effort on our part.

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Poster: orchiddoctor Date: Jan 6, 2007 6:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Come on....

Then I realized that this is still a time honored tradition. Seems like many of you savor the human element involved in trading or just sending some welcomed cds to friends. That's what it used to be about--getting hi, listening, talking--not massive downloading. I thought it was odd at first to notice so many posts thanking this person or that for cds, etc.

Still, there are so many dl sites still available: shnflac, dime, and yes, it's mo3, but speeding arrow.

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Poster: TheGreat_and_Knowledgable Date: Jan 6, 2007 6:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Come on....

speeding arrow is the greatest

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Jan 6, 2007 6:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Come on....

Orchid, you are right of course. It was, back in the day, a more personal exchange, the trading of shows, often involving discussion, the intake of some good smoke, a laugh, a shared memory of a show, etc. Things evolve and change not always to our liking and often to our bewilderment. 98% of the cassettes that started my collection came via trading or copying from friends, and strangers who sometimes became friends, even if we've now long lost touch. However, there are still many who still trade via the post, or better still, make copies for friends, coworkers and possibly the occasional stranger. The world we live in is a different place, whether better or worse i won't say. The internet, however profound its offerings, can be used for good or ill. I've seen elements of both, but i steer toward the former. Thanks for your thoughts ... always welcome.

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Poster: orchiddoctor Date: Jan 6, 2007 9:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Come on....

Waaaaaaaaaay back in time (20th century!), when men still lived in trees, we traded tapes (those hissy things that spun round and run till they ran out mid song. There wasn't much out there--mostly shitty to half assed audiences and a few half decent sbds--so we cherished what we could get. My first copy of the 1971 Fillmore East was a sped up hissy as hell tape from 4-28--very incomplete. But that Hard to Handle still blew me away every time (still does!!). I remember stoned afternoons out in Brooklyn with the Hell's Honkies, or drives to Ann Arbor for taping marathons (Hope your deck is hooked in line 'cause here we go). Click play and smoke a j. Spreading tapes around wasn't easy. The Harpur gig was played on KSAN (I believe) in 1972, and a friend who was out there got a copy and was king for a year and a day. Winterland 71--from the F.M. broadcast--that I got from a freshman at my college--a head with whom I am still close friends. Certain tapes had cries from the audience--on El Monte 12-28-70--right before Smokestack lightining, someone yells, "It's a blob, it's a blob," and someone else yells, "It's a blimp, it's a blimp!) Seemed an integral part of the show. One of the first shows I taped, Gaelic Park August 1971--in the middle of China Cat--Rider, someone was yelling, "Marshmallows, marshmallows) as he threw some in the air. Years later, a copy of that tape came back to me--there it was--"Marshmallows!"--I knew it was my tape. It was a very shitty quality tape, btw, but it meant the world to me.

As the years went by, F.M. soundboards made the rounds--many from the Fall 1972 shows (but not all) fell slowly into our grubby little hands. A few sbds escaped--but that was about it. Oh---and bootleg discs! The lp on Mammary records (I forget--a December 1970 KSAN broadcast) with four songs. Gold, I tell you, gold.

So when I found the archive (after GDLive and a few other spots) I was amazed. And, oddly disappointed. I figure if you collect something, each acquisition should have value and meaning attached to it--a story, a memory; and each should be fully enjoyed. But, oh, this pandora's box of downloads! Where to start? Chronological? Shows I attended?
Only crispy sbds? And where to end?

Confession: I couldn't listen and really appreciate 1/10th of the shows posted there--not even 1/10 of the stuff from 1966-1973. Too much. So, now, I lurk around ShnFlac and snag one here and there and actually play it while driving so I can hear it--at least once--all the way through in context.

But even that's a lot.

And I miss the human touch--the Hell's Honkies, Mort, Ken, Tom, Doc--all of them.

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Poster: BLUES 2 Date: Jan 18, 2007 1:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Come on....

JUST CAME ACROSS THIS WHILE DOING A MEMORY FLASH -- WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL HELLS HONKIES -- ALONG WITH MARK AND HARVEY AND JERRY WHO WOUND UP STARTING RELIX MAGAZINE WITH OUR 'ARCH FOE' AT THE TIME, LES KIPPEL OF THE GRATEFUL DEAD CLUB BASED IN BROOKLYN -- US HONKIES AS I REMEMBER WERE QUEENS AND BRONX BOYS ALTHOUGH WE CERTAINLY DID PARTY ALOT IN BKLYN ESPECIALLY WITH RT AND THE CREW -- IT WAS A BADGE OF HONOR TO BE A HONKIE AND WAS THRILLED TO SEE JERRY AT A CONCERT A FEW YEARS BACK --THANKS FOR THE MEMORYS

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Poster: deadrelix Date: May 8, 2008 1:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Arch Foe?

I just found this little group of 'old hippies' I used to trade tapes and wonder what exactly do you mean by 'arch enemy'.

What exactly did he do to you to have such a strong opinion about him?

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Poster: elcee Date: Jan 25, 2007 8:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Come on....

I met Mark in '71 at CCNY. Had already been trading with Les. Hung with Mark for many years and got great stuff from Harvey. He didn't forget his friends. Jerry lost his mind and Les was a DICK.

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Poster: BLUES 2 Date: Jan 26, 2007 6:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Come on....

yes, Les was that and certainly more -- probably still is -- yesi, Jerry lost his mind to go into that venture with Les which turned out to be a profitable one and is still going -- my undersdtanding is that Jerry got screwed on that which did not surprise me -- no one liked Les -- even his own fellow tape club members -- we pulled a few good pranks on him -- creating mythical shows and claiming to have soindboards of them and not letting him have a copy --- it drove him NUTS -- one of them was a Herkimer show -- have not seen Harvey and Mark since those days -- have run into Jerry a few times at shows -- the last one being in Pouhkeepsie at a club where some sort of Airplane configuration was playing -- he was hanging with Paul Kantor at the board -- the funny thing i was just telling my wife at the time about the Hells Honkies etc and she didnt quite believe me till we walked into the club and i screamed Jerry Honkie and he turned around -- keep in touch --thanks,

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Poster: deadrelix Date: May 8, 2008 1:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: ah come on... for real?

OK, I don't understand what some of these messages are all about, but I think your history is wrong and biased.

Maybe it is because you are only getting one side of the story. It seems amazing that Les has kept quiet all these years and has never said anything at all, not to mention anything bad about Jerry Moore.

I get the feeling that it would be interesting to get the other side of the story.

The way I see it, Les starting tapers finding about each other in 1971. He was the one who created "The First Free Underground Grateful Dead Exchange."

Not only were there many of them in different states, Jerry Moore was only 'one' trader that was a member of one Tape Exchange.

Lets see, why did someone make a phoney tape? Maybe to SCAM a free tape?

In those days, as well as today, that is called COUNTERFEITING. Get caught with a counterfeit $20 and you go to jail.

Sounds like other people has some stories to correct.

I don't mean to come onto this forum and blast away with two guns, so I am open to hear facts from those directly involved.

And, finally, your posting leads to suggest that Les is still the owner of Relix. I believe thats not true

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Poster: harold laslo Date: Nov 2, 2007 7:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: HELLS HONKIES !!

GOOD AM -- RE; HELLS HONKIES -- THE HELLS HONKIES WERE ONE OF THE ORIGINAL TAPE TRADING GROUPS -- WE WERE MOSTLY IN QUEENS AND THE BRONX IN THOSE DAYS -- THERE WERE FOUR OF US AT OUR HEIGHT -- MARK, JERRY, HARVEY AND MYSELF -- WE DID HAMG OUT IN BROOKLY WITH LES AND ARTIE OF THE GRATEFUL DEAD TAPE CLUB -- THIS WAS PRIOR TO LES'S INTERVIEW IN ROLLING STONE AND STARTING RELIX WITH JERRY -- H

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Poster: deadrelix Date: May 8, 2008 1:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: HELLS HONKIES !!

I seem to remember a nasty incident that resulted in the Hells Honkies issuing a formal and public apology to Les.

What was it?

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Poster: deadrelix Date: Mar 13, 2009 7:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: HELLS HONKIES !!

Man, you are really testing my burnt out brain cells. I believe that either they sent him a letter accusing him of bootlegging, or maybe a letter to Rolling Stone Magazine, saying something nasty.

I Don't remember the specifics, and not many people are alive who remember, I pulled out my stack of old Exchange Cards, and I see your name on one for Hells Honkies. Were you with them?

What do you remember?

And why the crucification of Relix, who did more for taping then any one else?

I'd like to know as a collector

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Poster: HAROLD LASLO 2 Date: Mar 20, 2009 9:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: HELLS HONKIES !!

SORRY TO MAKE U THINK -- KNOW IT IS NOT EASY FOR US AS TIME GOES ON -- YES, I WAS PROUD TO BE A MEMBER OF THE HELLS HONKIES -- STILL AM -- WOULD LOVE TO SEE A COPY OF THE CARD IF U COULD SCAN IT -- I AM THE HAROLD ON THE CARD -- ALL THE 'FEUDING' IN THOSE DAYS WAS MOSTLY IN FUN -- AS I REMEMBER LOTS OF FOLKS FOUND IT DIFFICULT TO DEAL WITH LES AS FAR AS TRADING AND EVEN LISTENING WENT -- HE ALSO HAD A HABIT OF TAKING CREDIT FOR THINGS HE SHOULDN'T HAVE -- IF MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECT IT WAS JERRY MOORE OF THE HELLS HONKIES HE WENT INTO BUSINESS WITH FOR RELIX AND THEN CUT HIM OUT -- THAT IS WHAT I HEARD AT LEAST -- THIS IS ALL WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE AND IF IT WASN'T FOR FINDING THESE POSTS I WOULD NOT EVEN BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH THAT STUFF -- DID GET IN TOUCH WITH MARTY WEINBERHG RECENTLY -- AKA MARTY FROM THE BRONX -- HE IS A TRUE LEGEND IN THE WORLD OF TAPING AND WAS THRILLED TO HEAR HE IS WELL -- LERT ME KNOW WHAT ELSE U WOULD LIKE TO KNOW AND I WILL GET BACK TO YA QUICKER --
THANKS -- HAROLD OF THE HELLS HONKIES

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Poster: deadrelix Date: Mar 25, 2009 5:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: HELLS HONKIES !!

I don't think counterfeiting a concert is 'fun', I think it is downright illegal. Whether you did it for 'fun' or a 'joke', it was still wrong.

Trying to 'dupe' someone is a stupid high school style prank that has ended any number of 'nice' people in trouble with the law.

I think what Les did by creating a community of brothers and sisters to trade tapes was the one thing that pushed the Grateful Dead from a cult band to one that survives today.

After reading your last entries, I think what the Hells Honkies did was pretty stupid.

How could you, as part of a tape trading scene that was based upon honesty be part of counterfeiting?

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Poster: HAROLD LASLO 2 Date: Mar 25, 2009 6:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: HELLS HONKIES !!

OK, I WILL ADDRESS THIS HOPEFULLY FOR THE LAST TIME -- WE DID NOT COUNTERFEIT ANYTHING -- YOU MAKE IT SOUND AS IF WE CREATED SOMETHING AND SOLD IT FOR A PROFIT OR EVEN WORSE TO CAUSE THE LOSS OF HUMAN LIFE -- I GIVE LES FULL CREDIT FOR HIS LIFE ACCOMPLISHMENTS; HOWEVER, HE WAS NOT THE NICEST GUY TO INTERACT WITH IN THOSE DAYS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT CAME TO 'SHARING THE MUSIC' WHICH YOU SEEMED CONCERNED ABOUT -- ALSO IT WAS NOT JUST THE HELLS HONMKIES WHO CREATED 'HERKIMER' IT WAS MEMBERS OF HIS OWN TAPE CLUB AND CLOSE FRIENDS OF HIS -- THIS WAS 40 YEARS AGO AND LASTED A WHOLE COUPLE OF DAYS -- CERTAINLY NOT WORTH THE ANGST YOU ARE SHOWING OVER IT -- LIGHTEN UP DUDE!! -- YEAH, LES DID SOME GOOD THINGS -- PROBABLY EVEN WORKED IN A SOUP KITCHEN AT TIMES BUT BACK THEN IF U WANTED TO LISTEN TO A TAPE OF A SHOW HE HAD YOU HAD TO BEG- NOT THE ATTITIUDE MOST OF US HAD IN THOSE DAYS -- ALSO HE TOOK CREDIT FOR THINGS HE DID BUT DID NOT GIVE CREDIT TO THOSE WHO DID THEM WITH HIM --THEY WERE THE ONES UPSET -- NOT ME- AS FAR AS BEING OFF THE DEEP END -- IF BEING PART OF A HARMLESS, MINOR PRANK MAKES ME OFF THE DEEP END, THEN SO BE IT -- I GUESS U JUST DONT GET IT THAT IT WAS A REACTION TO SOMETHING -- WE DID NOT STRIKE FIRST -- U KNOW WHAT, I DOUBT THAT LES WOULD EVEN REMEMBER ANY OF THIS -- WELL, I HOPE THIS HELPS, IF NOT LET ME KNOW WHAT ELSE U NEED TO KNOW -- I GUESS U HAD TO BE THERE -- HAROLD OF THE HELLS HONKIES

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Poster: deadrelix Date: Mar 26, 2009 10:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: HELLS HONKIES !!

Also, as for Les, I think he had a lot of assholes to contend with. There was one interview that he discussed the 'should've's, would've's, could've's, but didn't.

Talking about musicians, writers and photographers that thought they were greater then themselves. Ironicily, none of them are around today.

I think a lot of people wanted $$$$ above and beyond what Relix could pay. I think 30 years of Relix under Les, and then Toni was amazing. The owners who bought Relix in 2,000, recently sold it to a new publisher because they couldn't do what Les and then Toni did.

I would hazard a guess that there are more people out there that would think Les did great, instead of your view.

I'm not here to defend him, but I think you are way off base in what you did. A sophmoric college prank, at best.

Pisser is, after 40 years ( your count), you still can't see what you did as being wrong.



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Poster: deadrelix Date: Mar 26, 2009 10:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Conterfeiting

Ya know what, Pranks have cost people their lives. The act of creating a bootleg or counterfeit is a crime, not the fact that it was done as a spoof.

If you counterfeit U.S. currency and keep it in your house, you have already committed the crime.

And I wonder, are you referring to Jerry Moore as Les's 'friend'?

I remember an interview I read somewhere about their 'friendship' and how Les did a lot of things for Jerry, but in the end, Jerry tried to sabatoge the Tape Exchange and Magazine.

What do you know about those things? Was Jerry a positivew influence in the Tape Exchange and Magazine?

What happened that Jerry 'left' Dead Relix? I am curious, and the histories that I've seen, puts him out fairly early and Les felt bad about it, but wouldn't discuss what happened.

I heard something about a girl influencing Jerry to do some nasty things that got him into trouble.

What do you know about that?

anyway, counterfeiting for 'fun' is still illegal, at least the last time I checked with the law.

Pot, on the other hand is going legal

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Poster: HAROLD LASLO 2 Date: Mar 26, 2009 11:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: TENACIOUS

DUDE U R RELENTLESS - VERY SORRY THAT WE COMMITTED A COLLEGE TYPE PRANK WHEN WE WERE OF COLLEGE AGE -- GO FIGURE -- FOR THE LAST TIME ..HOPEFULLY -- I GIVE AND GAVE LES FULL CREDIT FOR HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS -- NO COUNTERFEITING WAS DONE -- NO LIVES WERE LOST AND/OR DESTROYED .. I KNOW NOTHING OF WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN LES AND JERRY .. WHY DONT U ASK THEM IF U R SO INTERESTED .. AND IF U HAVE ANY POT IN YOUR POSSESION IT IS ILLEGAL AND THE TALK OF IT GOING LEGAL HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR 40 YEARS,(THERE'S THAT # AGAIN) BUT I GUESS U KNOW SOMETHING NO ONE ELSE DOES ABOUT IT .. GOOD LUCK TO YOU IN YOUR HISTORY RESEARCH -- IF I WAS REFERRING TO JERRY AS HIS FRIEND I WOULD HAVE SAID SO -- JUST PROTECTING THE CO-CONSPIRITORS IN THIS CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY THAT YOU SEEM TO FEEL WAS DONE .. AGAIN -- LIGHTEN UP .. OR MAYBE LIGHT UP -- ALL THE BEST -- OH YEAH, REMEMBER MAY 4TH IS KENT STATE DAY -- LEARN ABOUT THAT ALSO AS A SUGGESTION -- DONT FORGET TO ASK LES ABOUT THE PIE THAT GOT THROWN AT HIM -- I HEAR THAT IS A GOOD STORY ALSO -- AGAIN ALL THE BEST IN YOUR RESEARCH AND IF THERE IS ANYWAY I CAN HELP WITH OUT BEING ACCUSED OF CRIMES AGAINST MANKIND ( AND WOMAN) LET ME KNOW
HAROLD OF HELLS HONKIES

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Poster: HAROLD LASLO 2 Date: Mar 20, 2009 9:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: HELLS HONKIES !!

SORRY TO MAKE U THINK -- KNOW IT IS NOT EASY FOR US AS TIME GOES ON -- YES, I WAS PROUD TO BE A MEMBER OF THE HELLS HONKIES -- STILL AM -- WOULD LOVE TO SEE A COPY OF THE CARD IF U COULD SCAN IT -- I AM THE HAROLD ON THE CARD -- ALL THE 'FEUDING' IN THOSE DAYS WAS MOSTLY IN FUN -- AS I REMEMBER LOTS OF FOLKS FOUND IT DIFFICULT TO DEAL WITH LES AS FAR AS TRADING AND EVEN LISTENING WENT -- HE ALSO HAD A HABIT OF TAKING CREDIT FOR THINGS HE SHOULDN'T HAVE -- IF MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECT IT WAS JERRY MOORE OF THE HELLS HONKIES HE WENT INTO BUSINESS WITH FOR RELIX AND THEN CUT HIM OUT -- THAT IS WHAT I HEARD AT LEAST -- THIS IS ALL WATER UNDER THE BRIDGE AND IF IT WASN'T FOR FINDING THESE POSTS I WOULD NOT EVEN BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH THAT STUFF -- DID GET IN TOUCH WITH MARTY WEINBERHG RECENTLY -- AKA MARTY FROM THE BRONX -- HE IS A TRUE LEGEND IN THE WORLD OF TAPING AND WAS THRILLED TO HEAR HE IS WELL -- LERT ME KNOW WHAT ELSE U WOULD LIKE TO KNOW AND I WILL GET BACK TO YA QUICKER --
THANKS -- HAROLD OF THE HELLS HONKIES

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Poster: HAROLD LASLO 2 Date: Mar 20, 2009 10:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: HELLS HONKIES !!

YO -- JUST REMEBERED THAT IN REGARDS TO THE LETTER TO ROLLING STONE -- I BELIEVE IT WAS BECAUSE OF AN INTERVIEW THEY DID WITH LEAST WHERE SEVERAL PEOPLE FELT HE TOOK CREDIT FOR SOME MATTERS HE SHOULDN'T HAVE AND MAYBE USED THE WORD I TO MUCH -- IF NOT LITERALLY AT LEAST IN THEORY -- AGAIN, I THINK TRHE LETTER MIGHT HAVE BEEN A GROUP EFFORT BUT AT THE LEAST WAS WRITTEN BY MEMBERS OF HIS OWN TAPE CLUB -- HOPE THIS HELPS -- THERE WAS ALSO A SHOW LABELLED HERKIMER, NY THAT WAS CREATED THAT WAS USED TO 'TEASE' LES WITH -- A MADE UP SHOW WITH GREAT SETLIST AND QUALITY THAT HE WAS DENIED THE P-LEASURE OF EVER GETTING IN FULL -- I BELIEVE SOMEONE EARLIER SAID WE SHOPULD HAVE BEEN PENALIZED FOR BOOTLEGGING -- WE WERE 'BAD BOYS' -- OH WELL
HAROLD OF THE HELLS HONKIES

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Poster: Bob Gnarley Date: Mar 20, 2009 10:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: HELLS HONKIES !!

Pssst, Harold, your "Caps Lock" is on.

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Poster: HAROLD LASLO 2 Date: Mar 20, 2009 10:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: HELLS HONKIES !!

BOB -- THANKS FOR LETTING ME KNOW -- HOW GAUCHE OF ME -- ACTUALLY AS U CAN SEE I ALWAYS OR AT LEAST ALMOST ALWAYS TYPE IN CAPS -- I DID NOT KNOW FOR AWHILE THAT IT WAS NOT PC -- HOWEVER MY EYES ARE NO SO GREAT AT MY AGE AND IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR ME TO READ WHAT I AM WRITING -- DID NOT MEAN TO OFFEND ANYONE -- H

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Poster: deadrelix Date: Mar 25, 2009 5:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: HELLS HONKIES !!

OK....Since I wasn't part of Hells Honkies, but realize that a lot of people take credit for things they didn't do, I was curious... What did Les take credit for that he didn't do?

LEts get down to 'Throwing Stones' level. When I do a google search for Les, I get hundreds of hits of what he did so. If I read correctly, he did start the tape exchange, he did create Dead Relix magazine, he did create Relix Records with over 100 projects released.

I guess his efforts really did keep a lot of out of work musicians alive and feed a lot of people.

Hells Honkies had 4 hits, 3 about this stuff here. So were you guys trying to throw a few stones at him to create a stir? Was it jealousy? What would cause a few guys to counterfeit a Grateful Dead show and try to trade it and get a 'free' tape? I don't get it.

What am I missing here? It still looks like Hells Honkies were off the deep end.

Sounds like what everyone would do with Bill Graham. Knock him down to raise yourself...

Enlighten me.

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Poster: HAROLD LASLO 2 Date: Mar 11, 2009 1:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: HELLS HONKIES !!

BEEN AWHILE SINCE THE ORIGINAL POSTINGS -- DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ANY APOLOGY -- FROM THE HELLS HONKIES TO LES OR ANYONE ELSE -- H

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Poster: HAROLD LASLO 2 Date: Mar 11, 2009 1:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: HELLS HONKIES !!

BEEN AWHILE SINCE THE ORIGINAL POSTINGS -- DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ANY APOLOGY -- FROM THE HELLS HONKIES TO LES OR ANYONE ELSE -- H

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Poster: HAROLD LASLO 2 Date: Mar 11, 2009 1:50pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: HELLS HONKIES !!

BEEN AWHILE SINCE THE ORIGINAL POSTINGS -- DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ANY APOLOGY -- FROM THE HELLS HONKIES TO LES OR ANYUONE ELSE -- H

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Jan 6, 2007 12:46pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Come on....

"So when I found the archive (after GDLive and a few other spots) I was amazed. And, oddly disappointed. I figure if you collect something, each acquisition should have value and meaning attached to it--a story, a memory; and each should be fully enjoyed. But, oh, this pandora's box of downloads! Where to start? Chronological? Shows I attended?
Only crispy sbds? And where to end? "

Amen. I was astonished by the quality of shows I first came across at Onshare, gdlive, and later the Archive- not only could I upgrade my favorites from the hissy 132nd generation copies I'd gotten by with for years, but now I could grab the very best sounding versions of shows I'd long sought (and a few that I'd only heard rumours of).

Yet somehow, over time, more became less. I mean, the collection I have now destroys my old cassette library, and for that I'm grateful...yet somehow, I don't seem to cherish the aquisition of individual shows quite as much. I've recently slowed waaaaaaaay down and am trying to savor the music more as I did in the early years (I think there was a thread regarding this general phenomenon a few weeks ago...)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 6, 2007 9:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Come on....

I've got a Mammary Productions release...still in great condition. Telegraph ave had some great record stores in the early 70s with this stuff...

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Poster: orchiddoctor Date: Jan 6, 2007 10:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Come on....

A genuine bootleg with music that still stands the test of time. Wish I had mine as a keepsake.

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Poster: desact Date: Jan 6, 2007 7:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Come on....

The bottom line is that if you are a SBD addict (I confess that I share this addiction), there are still numerous places (some named above) to download shows. I've snagged more SBDs in the past few months than I ever did from the archive when I naively thought the archive shows would be around forever and took them for granted.

Case in point. Last night I dl'ed 6/7/77 on another site. Talk about crisp sound. The clarity blew me away. You apparently can't even find an AUD of that show on the archive, but I've gotta tell you, if you can get find it elsewhere, don't miss it. The following sequence is awesome:

1.Scarlet->
2.Fire->
3.Good Lovin'
4.Candyman
5.Estimated Prophet->
6.He's Gone->
7.Drums->
8.Samson & Delilah->

Even Donna's harmonies are (pretty) tight. Now that's saying something. It's just a gorgeous set to listen to.

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Poster: Dancinbears Date: Jan 6, 2007 7:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Come on....

hello alanizj!

I have said many times that I am one of the people who trade, the old-fashioned, snail-mail way, and get much joy and satisfaction (as well as kick-ass soundboards!!) from it.

If you are ever interested in how to get started with trading, trees & vines, or would like a BnP (or a freebie) I always share... drop me a line
dancinbears4me@yahoo.com